Not A Word
It appeared in Variety yesterday.
If you’re a WGAw screenwriter, you can still add your name to the online version.
When I was asked to sign this, I did offer a full disclosure that I could theoretically provide A-H exceptions over the course of the next two weeks (although so far, we’ve been bang on script).
This did not deter them from including my name, which makes me happy, because I will, in fact, be entirely “not a word” in two weeks no matter what.
The WGAE also ran an ad that you can see here.
Thanks for signing it, Craig.
Patrick Meighan Culver City, CA
Spoke to a director and WGAw member at the rally. He said he’s considering not shooting pick-ups for his film even though he’s been threatened with legal action.
I hope he stands with the showrunners and others who are the heroes and not with Craig. But if he does shoot his pick-ups, as he said himself, it’s because he’s a coward.
The reason I thought I’d share this is because I wail on Craig about his lack of true support. (Actions speak louder than words.) But now I’m beginning to realize, it’s more that he won’t just admit his real problem.
This director, more high profile than Craig, didn’t try to hide behind his “contractual obligations,” but knew in his heart it was a moral decision and that he might not take the heroic path, but the cowardly path.
Thank God for the heroes and right now they’re the showrunners. On the other hand, Craig, I finally heard the emotional turmoil a writer/director goes through before making this decision. And it made a impact because there was no rationalization going on.
Anyway, hope both sides come together and talk this weekend.
“This did not deter them from including my name, which makes me happy, because I will, in fact, be entirely “not a word” in two weeks no matter what.”
I’m not sure what this means. Are you saying that you have two more weeks during which you may need to provide A-H exceptions, and after that you’re not writing anything? Or-?
Thanks for signing.
Am I the only one who finds a disconnect between someone who hides behind “Anonymous” and yet criticizes others for not having courage to take a stand?
And, puh-lease, as much as I admire and salute the showrunners who are taking a stand - a stand I totally support - let’s not start using the word “heroes”…
Craig, I know it’s tempting to drop-in and put your two-cents in, but, you’re really just gonna get lit-up, here. When you “went missing” for awhile, the witch hunters cooled off. Probably best to keep things like, “I will, in fact, be entirely not a word, in two weeks no matter what”, to yourself. Two weeks is a lifetime to a lot of folks out here.
Am I the only one who finds a disconnect between someone who hides behind �Anonymous� and yet criticizes others for not having courage to take a stand?
Man’s got a point.
There are far too many Anonymouses on this blog.
Yes. Anonymous is evil.
I’ll admit that I spent the days before the Strike trying to figure out how I could keep my projects moving forward without technically breaking any rules or losing sight of my personal moral compass. Now that I’ve been out there on the picket lines every day, I have a better understanding not only of what we’re doing and why but HOW to make it work.
I was reluctant to picket at first. I believed that stopping work was the only obligation I had to my Guild. I resented the fact that someone called my house and said “You will be picketing [here].” I decided to walk the line on Monday only because it was a new experience where I might learn something. And did I ever.
I’ve been out there every day since — sometimes leading the chants. It’s been fun, exciting and invigorating every single time. And today’s rally at Fox was indeed a sight to see and a thing to feel.
One week ago, I was making a list of the matinee showings of movies I’d catch up on during the Strike. Now I’m writing Strike related song parodies so the picketers with guitars can play something fun for us to sing along to. Check out http://quirkysituationswga.blogspot.com for the few I’ve come up with so far. More on the way. Tell your fellow picketers, print ‘em up and have some fun.
Thanks for linking us to Not A Word, Craig. We’re all showing support in the best way we know how, A-H exceptions or not.
Much love…
‘Not a word” is an impossibility
Craig, a writer writes, on paper or memory, day in and day out, on the “job” and off of it. To utter the “not a word” scenario is, shall I say, a logical fallacy. You see, to proclaim “not a word”, you would need to stop writing, which would mean to stop thinking, which would mean to stop doing anything, which would mean to cease being human. Now, granted this is a literal posit, yet it makes a heck of a lot more sense than “not a word”, which is in your blood.
Writing is an addiction, one that is beneficial and cannot be “cured”, so to speak. In fact, people can be addicted to a lot of things not drug-related. Writing, chaos, video games, computers, feet fetishes, sexual proclivity on oneself, job single-mindedness, sports, and a whole slew of other things “Intervention” can not touch due to lack of medical research.
One other addiction is poverty. By that, I do not refer to accumulating more wealth; rather, it is claiming and acting like nothing has been given in finances to you that complaints, however legitimate, may continue even when security is at hand. In a way, it also allots for certain benefits are willingly not prefered due to whatever reasons are given.
Folks, this idea of poverty addiction causes all public statements by writers related to their jobs to be lost on your part. The public will, and does, see actions taken by writers and several things are engrained. First, the public will and does resent the claims of no money by any creative force: they will always compare your monetary wealth to their own or those actually living below the poverty line. Yes, there are those writers that are poor, yet no one speaks about them, not even the WGA leadership; only when it is deemed convenient will they speak, and then forget as soon as they spoke.
Second, all the public cares about is if their favorite programs (television, not film) will be shown at a timely manner, regardless of technological derivatives. To the public, when they hear about these compensation issues for online, they do not think about your wants for an increase. No, they wonder if this will increase what the public will have to pay for these endeavors, either through a new fee or an increase in pay. The public will not go for that, instead relying on free alternatives that are available.
Third, unfortunately a great deal of the public are conservatives who want their conservative programming. To these people, any criticism of their idols is tantamount to blasphemy. Frankly, these people do not look outside their gates. They especially hate political art, wheras I enjoy it immensely (e.g., Tom Morello.)
Fourth, and perhaps most damning, the public will wonder why certain individuals claim to have wealth but cry poverty. The public then will and does ask questions regarding personal finances, looking for a reason to back their claims. Sadly, they could be right in this department. I think back to the 1998 NBA lockout, when some multi-millionaire stars were pleading for greater money. Unfortunately, the results of the players seeking greater wealth were destroyed when one interview went public with a player whose name I forget. Anyway, that player stated that he needed a $2 million increase from his $12 million seasonal pay due to obtaining a second mortage on his second house, back-pay child alimony over a year’s worth that was not payable, exorbitant fees for attorney privileges relating to his divorce and child support, and paying seven different Mercedes-Benz cars and suv’s that he bought within a year. Needless to say, among other things the player said he needed, the public seemed to turn their backs against the players, essentially saying “you should have thought about these things before you spent your money like water.”
The public could likely, and already has in some respect, turn against writers and those “on strike” by asking why they need the presumably million or so increase from their already told millions in profits and net worth, especially the richer ones. If they hear publically what they think is the reasons (child alimony, expensive cars, too much partying, divorce settlements, expensive entourages, home renovations for minute reasons, blackmail from certain figures, drug money, the inability to save money), they will not sternly criticize the moguls, nor the governemnt, nor the Federal Reserve. Blame will be shifted onto the ones in complaint; sadly, some might be deserving in scorn, I’m just not certain who.
You guys have lost the PR war on this front. Look what has come done: 24 is cancelled I think), K-Ville is cancelled (I am sure), Fox essentially has told most programming to “screw all y’alls”, CBS is in the process of suing all their showrunners, NBC is telling the makers of “The Office” to essentially leave the premises, Heroes is near cancellation, the bigwigs who are in SAG and the DGA will not follow through on labor measures (do not bet on Tom Cruise walking the picket line, ever), the Teamsters are in legal knots with these issues, and now, the public does not care, unless they find evidence of supporting their claims of writers positioning poverty addiction.
And as I stated yesterday, you lost the support of Michael Rivero, which essentially means you have lost the support of the politically active internet populace. So what is next, months and years off, stubborness in all sides, dick-measuring beyond repute, no public support at all (and if there is support, only tacit approval on intention, not execution?) As an anonymous poster offered, if you cannot deal with the corporate mogul stratus, get a divorce. You material will always survive and thrive on the internet, movies, DVD, recording industry, and on-demand. Yet the moguls come to you instead of you coming to them.
However, if you need the money, and you need it now for reasons legitimate (the below-the-line workers) or skewed (potentail public hating ideals mentioned above), then negotiate an agreement which, rest assured, would be similar to the ones initially offered on all sides. As SML stated, a caving will happen; why not save the trouble and declare a detente of peace now than drag everyone to the ground. Please consider these ideals I have posted in the past few days (I know some may not want to comment on my posts but interactivity always helps), for the public, unlike in the past, will not and now has no intention of coming back. You all need each other in the end of this mess.
Waiting for comments patiently,
Lax24
[deleted per Priya…folks, follow the rules]
calling a showruner a Hero - whose typical income far exceeds most mortals is a tad idiotic and IMO flag-wavingly divisive.
Show me someone who has everything to lose who makes a decision to stand for what is right. Then call them Gandhi. But stop acting as the judge and jury to those who do or don’t appear to do your will. Please.
Yes, you have every right to say so, but you sound like someone who’s never been thru a strike. I have been through 2. The last and one that involved a lot of violence when I was a truck driver about a hundred years ago. But my point is - How in the hell do you know what is in someone’s heart? And why must you hide behind anonymity?
In the big picture film making is not brain surgery. And yet it attracts some of the most talented people I have ever worked with. They have a passion for their work that drives their decisions. Decisions that are made for creative, personal and financial reasons. Maybe they do it for the thrill of creating something that comes from god knows where. (I write music. My writing comes from god knows where.) To me that’s a thrill.
For the record, I think it can only help the cause when the showrunner pickets. But I don’t hail them as heroes.
Hi! So, you know what’s funny? I’m me. Yet, another me posted. A me that wasn’t me. A not-me me.
I’m very flattered. Thanks Not-Me Me!
Showrunners and others are facing legal action for breaking their contracts. That’s the greatest sacrifice anyone of us could make. They’re putting their money where there mouth is… they’re saying, like Steve Carell, the WGA’s future is worth it. They are risking their million dollar salaries for the masses.
And maybe you believe this is their obligation as WGA members. But as Craig and Ellen have proven, there is a choice.
They’ve chosen to really fight for what they believe in.
And for that, they are heroes.
LAX24, I know I shouldn’t be feeding the monkey. But could you please share some of that dope.
Craig, you must be saying that you’re shooting in two weeks. Obviously the strike already started. But, Craig, if you were saying you were going to spend the next two weeks writing and signed the sheet, well I’d say you’re hilarious in the most absurd fashion possible.
And, can I just suggest to all the haters and whiners, why not start thinking of solutions. I.E. — what can we as a community do to win this war? Trust me, pressuring Craig isn’t the winning way. There are other, more creative avenues.
For example, shooting something funny about the strike. Agitprop is the right term. Words only go so far, we’re in a multi-media platform, bust it out.
Regular Joe
Lax24,
“As SML stated, a caving will happen; why not save the trouble and declare a detente of peace now than drag everyone to the ground. “
The WGA has effectively declared a detente, my man. The AMPTP is not responding in kind. Not yet.
The WGA has not only extended a giant olive branch (the DVD resids), but it is applying effective, painful pressure (something that was missing from the ‘88 strike). K-VILLE the nets can stand to lose, but 24. That hurts Fox more than it hurts the writers.
I asked a question: If we’re going to cave anyway, why not cave now?
I was not implying that we should cave; I was implying that if this strike turns into a 5-month or longer war, we will cave (and I still believe that).
But the WGA seems to be giving this a real shot. So I will support them faithfully until I’m proven right (and, for once in my life, I don’t want to be right).
Here’s a thought, Regular Joe. How about petitioning CALPERS to divest its entertainment stocks? Even if we couldn’t appeal to the activist streak of its board, we might be able to convince them that they should think twice about continuing to invest in giant entertainment companies who publicly declare that they can’t figure out how to make money on the internet. :)
I signed that but my name is misspelled. I’m trying to figure out the ramifications.
It’s an awkward situation for us non-WGA guys and gals who are in the middle of getting our first deals. (Feature)
I’ve toiled ten years in this business and am just now ready to enjoy some well deserved success…only to find myself in the midst of a huge strike situation…and because I’m NOT a part of the union, in a very difficult position. There are a lot of militant people on this blog and out on the streets and I feel that if someone has existing work that was in development, written and headed toward production with an indie (non sig) company they should not be pilloried for following their dream.
For many of us the opportunity to make a movie is a dream come true and I have a huge issue with a union that I’m not yet a part of, might black list me because I am realizing my dream.
I’m not going to stare across the room at producers who are my friends and with whom I’ve been working with for over a year. People who have given me a shot and say, ‘sorry thanks for all the hard work and believing in me but I’m not going to able to work until this over…’
And let me remind before the flames start. I’m NOT WRITING. I’m talking about making a film that I WROTE (pre strike) and is financed outside the studio system by a non-sig company.
It’s hard to make a movie in this town, it’s hard to make a buck in this town and I just don’t see how the regular person who is not yet financially well off, (someone in my position) can honestly walk away from meetings, deal-making and all other activities that are not actually WRITING…
Picketing this weekend? I’ve heard some projects shoot on weekends, sometimes.
Craig should be hunted down and crucified for doing what he is doing. I put him in the same category as Hitler, and should be dealt with as such. Let’s everyone band together and attack Craig until he kills himself in his bunker where he is filming his movie!
And until he gives me all his money, I will not feel he is supporting the strike to my satisfaction. He must SUFFER!!!!!!!
By the way, I have decided that I am moral authority on all that is good and right, so if you have any questions, please feel free to ask.
Nowhere did Craig imply that he was going to be writing for another two weeks. I believe he’s already started shooting so I think he meant he will be doing A-H work for another two weeks and then be wrapped.
Anonymous Bosch,
You’re in a shitty situation. No doubt. But your movie will get made and your talent recognized. 10 years is a long time to wait, but what’s another two months in support of your fellow filmmakers.
And, btw, if your film is being made by a non-sig the WGA has no “black listing” rights. But if you chose to do this, you can’t come here and ask us not to be mad. We have dreams that we are sacrificing for our fellow filmmakers. Don’t forget that.
Uh, I’m guessing that’s not Tim W. posting up there. Oh, and this is me me, not Not-Me Me.
Priya,
He was joshing. Nice. Double meaning.
Craig —
Could you clarify this part:
“When I was asked to sign this, I did offer a full disclosure that I could theoretically provide A-H exceptions over the course of the next two weeks (although so far, we’ve been bang on script).”
When you say “so far,” it’s a bit foggy. Does it mean you would/could/may rewrite the script if the reason was compelling enough?
In light of the writer’s strike, let’s sit back and hear Harlan Ellison’s gentle critique of the Hollywood system: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5IV23g-fE
So… is this kind of like “I’ve broken up with my loser boyfriend! For good this time. I just need two weeks to move my stuff out of his apartment, and then absolutely no more sex will transpire!”?
SML,
I’m about 95% sure that’s not Tim W. Just like I’m 100% sure the poster who posted #9 is not me.
Craig or Ted or Denise could verify the IP addresses, though.
Priya,
Even if he’s not the real Tim W. he was not being serious. And if he was being serious, well, he did a poor job of it.
Priya,
Also when somebody calls somebody Hitler, it’s usually a joke.
Oh, SML. You haven’t spend enough time on the internet if you think that’s true.
I think i speak for many american’s when i say COME TO A DEAL ALREADY! i WANT MY FUCKING SHOWS BACK!!! Then seanate just aproved a tourturing maniac as attorney genarl and we have no daily show to lampoon it! Jesus!
SML,
It’s not the text that concerns me — he could have said, “SML eats embryos,” for all I care. It’s the posting under other people’s handles that’s irksome. Like, you know, #9. It’s especially irksome, when, you know, some of us post under our real names.
Lax24: Some of us (at the European end of things) weary of your endless empty sophistry.
Kindly do us the courtesy to BUTT OUT. (And having said as much — because it is always perilous to feed the trolls — can we all,all the rest of us, just send this nuisance to Coventry? Thanks.)
(mutter)
“When you say “so far,” it’s a bit foggy. Does it mean you would/could/may rewrite the script if the reason was compelling enough?”
It looks pretty simple to me. He said, theoretically, he might have A-H exemptions to file for the next two weeks, but, “so far” he hasn’t needed any [exemptions, which is to say the theoretical wound up unneccessary] because they’ve stuck to the script.
32 isn’t it obvious 90% of the WGA is Republican and this is just a ploy to get the Daily Show off the air.
Really, Bosch, I think you need to speak with your representatives about whether or not your actions constitute any form of strike-breaking and could result in any negative results from the WGA. As my lawyer has explained it to me, if you’re non-Guild, if the production company is non-Guild, and if there’s nothing going on in the contract that would ever make the production into a Guild production, you’re 100% free and clear. I’m doing a movie with a British production company, and it’s governed by British rules. Before the strike the WGA had no jurisdiction over it, so during the strike the WGA has no jurisdiction. We’re shooting in Britain with (mostly) British money.
Ask your lawyer, agent, and/or manager to clarify things for you, but I don’t think anyone can talk ill of someone who isn’t in the Guild doing work for a company that isn’t struck. Just because it’s in the same industry doesn’t mean that it falls under the same rules.
the showrunners are heroic to me.
they are the public face, sacrificing a lot and key to what has create a killer first week to the strike.
i hear the otherside is pretty freaked and stunned at the solidarity and cocaphony and disruption this week.
the rally today was lovely. Highlights: Seth Mc Farland’s hilarious speech, norman lear, the guys from reno 911, CAA passing out churros, paul haggis laying in the street with many other writers to spell out WGA in the street with their bodies, the great attitude of the real cops, all ‘the office’ folks…
I don’t know numbers, but it def seemed like more people than the convention center.
Unlikely protaganist against unsurmountable odds? We write this story every damn day!
Yes, it was me. I figured a bunch of writers would be able to get the sarcasm. Apparently I was wrong.
Although Verrone’s final bit during the speeches today was funny, with the “First they came for the animation writers, and I wasn’t an animation writer, so I didn’t speak out, and then they came for the reality writers, and I wasn’t a…” yadda yadda, is anyone else uncomfortable that he was repurposing a piece of prose that was originally written by Pastor Niemöller about the Nazis and the Holocaust? I know it’s been repeated often for causes that are far less serious than ours, but somehow it feels a little tawdry, as if we’re comparing this whole thing to living in Nazi Germany which, y’know, it ain’t.
Nope. Thinking does not result in intellectual property. Writing does. If you’re not creating intellectual property, then whatever you’re doing, it’s not writing, as that word is meant in the context of the MBA and the Writers Guild and as its commonly used.
Hey, go easy on Craig - what the world needs more than ever is more spoof movies! That’s the most challenging type of humor to write. He can’t be bothered picketing or being expected to adhere to the rules the rest of us are held to.
Well, I’m not doing NO writing. I’ve already started writing on my new book “WALKING IN CIRCLES: The Absolutely True Adventures of a Screenwriter on Strike”
Anon Bosch:
If it’s non-union it’s a non-problem. The strike is really against the corporations. My guess, your flick is not going to make in a megaplex. So what’s the problem? I don’t see any.
Reg Joe
Is Jerry Seinfeld WGA?
Understandably, not every WGA writer had an opportunity to sign before the ad deadline, but his absence from the list would seem to confirm that he and Mrs. Seinfeld will continue to co-adapt her cookbook “Shut Up America And We’ll Tell You What To Feed Your Fat, Fucking Family.”
Dreamworks has slated the pic for a July, 2011 release.
Although Verrone’s final bit during the speeches today was funny, with the “First they came for the animation writers, and I wasn’t an animation writer, so I didn’t speak out, and then they came for the reality writers, and I wasn’t a” yadda yadda, is anyone else uncomfortable that he was repurposing a piece of prose that was originally written by Pastor Niemuller about the Nazis and the Holocaust?
Did he really say that? What a clown. Not only is the Nazi overlay stupid (seriously, who outside of high school makes that analogy), but nobody came for animation writers. Until ten years ago, an animation writer would have had to set him or herself on fire in the lobby of the WGA building to be noticed by the Writers Guild. It was a jurisdiction the WGA couldn’t be bothered with, so it’s been covered by another union for the last six decades.
You don’t win friends and influence people this way, Patric.
Tim W. , apologies. It didn’t sound like you and since #9 didn’t sound like me, it rendered my Sarcasm Radar® faulty.
Does that include no directing and producing for WGA members
Priya,
Is that you? Really? I don’t think it’s you. I thought #9 was you.
:)
I don’t think Writers should stop ALL writing - they just shouldn’t be writing for struck companies.
In fact, I think Writers should start writing specs for Themselve. Do something constructive in case the Strike goes on for awhile.
If you’re suffering because you’re sacrificing for what you believe in, awesome, but suffering for suffering’s sake is…just masochism.
I don’t even know who I am anymore, SML, so it’s entirely possible that was Not-Me Me.
That’s exactly right.
Let’s see if my whole post makes it through this time:
Does the strike mean WGA members can not direct or produce either? Because I’m on a job right now where a WGA member is directing.
Are you WGA members who walk the line opposed to we worker bees joining your strike line? I ask this, because I am required to report to work under our contract, but would very much like to support your effort in negotiating a better wage. I feel it is important for all crafts and guilds and teamsters to speak with one voice in times like these. So, I ask you, can I join your line during my lunch hour?
I’ve been shooting since September. There are only two weeks of shooting left. The strike happened deep into my production schedule.
No, I can’t rewrite the script, as the term is typically understood. A-H exceptions are not considered writing (they’re excluded as such in our MBA).
They include things like cutting for time, reassigning dialogue from one actor to another, “casual, minor changes in dialogue,” which I take to mean stuff like changing “Oh God, I’m shot!” to “Oh no, I’m shot!”, etc.
That sort of stuff isn’t considered writing by our agreements, isn’t subject to WGA contracts, doesn’t require membership in the WGA, etc.
Worker Bee 54,
Yes. Join the line.
Worker Bee 53,
If he’s directing he’s covered under the DGA’s contract and is most likely a dual member. So, like you, is under legal contract to direct (but not to write).
“Does the strike mean WGA members can not direct or produce either? Because I’m on a job right now where a WGA member is directing.”
They can. They just can’t write (aside from the A-H exceptions, though there has been some controversy about that).
Some members have chosen to not produce or direct during the strike, but that’s a decision each member in the situation is making on his/her own depending on his/her personal feelings or philosophy.
No, it’s more like “I’ve broken up with my loser boyfriend. I just need two weeks to move my stuff out of his apartment, and during that time, I’ll say stuff like “Hi” and “Goodbye” and “Whatever” to him, and then I won’t talk to him at all again until he agrees to stop beating me.”
I’m not asking for forgiveness in advance. I’ve made my bed and I fully intend to sleep in it.
However, I do believe that it’s impossible to stop any and all ‘business’ from happening. If that puts me in the Mazin camp, so be it.
Especially because I’m not even IN the damn union yet.
I’ve walked the line. I will continue to walk to line but I will also direct the movie I wrote, regardless of who it may, or may not, piss off. I do have the blessing of not having to cross any lines to make my movie and I wouldn’t if I had to.
My comments were prompted by the ‘Not a word’ missive, which I just don’t think is reasonable. Writers write. Quod Scripsi Scripsi.
Adding to Craig’s assesment…
“…and like all battered women I will stay away until he shows me the slightest bit of love and will cave because I think it will be good for my children to have a man in their life…”
Actors and directors who are also WGA members have been ordered by their own unions to report to work…so it’s more than just that they can, but, in fact, they should.
To all WGA members out of work and walking the strike line:
Best of luck with your strike action. I believe you will win, especially given the economic and political tone in this country right now. Do not give up, do not back down, stand up for all of us in our desire for negotiating a better wage.
It’s high time the fat cats shared some of their kibble.
Craig,
“Actors and directors who are also WGA members have been ordered by their own unions to report to work…so it’s more than just that they can, but, in fact, they should.”
You’re begging Josh to spank you. You like it don’t you?
The reasonable posters here support your decision to work and support your right to perform A-H duties.
But a statement like this mocks the efforts of the Showrunners, Actors, and others who have chosen differently than you.
Although it may be a legal fact, the morals of this situation are not black and white.
I post anonymously because this board is full of a-holes and my kid has already been threatened. Even Craig can identify with that and, as I said, he likes the traffic here. My posts are one of the top ones to get responses from you guys.
Go to the picket lines and I’ll be glad to explain my side of the story. I’m no moral authority, but I have an opinion. It’s not the same as yours, but it still valid. Grow up and get out there and talk to real people.
At this point, I can’t go to this site every day, so, if I don’t write back, don’t be pissed.
Anon 65,
I have no idea who you or your posts are… so see you later…
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Said Muns, “We always start with a title and go from there. The writing part is easy.”
SML:
I’m not trying mock anyone. I just don’t agree with them on this. I think we weaken our position by urging our members to violate legal contracts.
If that’s not a popular opinion, so be it. I stand by it.
“Did he really say that? What a clown. Not only is the Nazi overlay stupid (seriously, who outside of high school makes that analogy), but nobody came for animation writers.”
That same analogy was used recently on Desperate Housewives by one of the new gay characters in an attempt to convince his neighbors to stand up for his right to have an ugly, noisy fountain thing in his yard.
“Actors and directors who are also WGA members have been ordered by their own unions to report to work…so it’s more than just that they can, but, in fact, they should.”
I get it — you’re just following orders.
“I think we weaken our position by urging our members to violate legal contracts. If that’s not a popular opinion, so be it. I stand by it.”
Could you at least explain your opinion?
I know you’ve made your choice, as it applies to you, and I’m done trying to urge you to do otherwise. But I don’t understand how the WGA’s position is weakened when, say, Seth MacFarlane does as you have not done and refuses to work for a guild-struck company (despite belonging to another guild, in addition to the WGA). In Seth’s case, of course, he has refused to honor his SAG obligation to give voice to his animated characters, thus blocking the completion of several original episodes of “Family Guy” and “American Dad”… episodes which Fox had counted on airing during the strike. It seems to me that Seth’s choice inflicts a fair amount of financial harm upon the studios, thus handing the WGA negotiators that much more bargaining leverage (leverage of the sort that you, for your own reasons, have chosen not to contribute, though your situations as dual-guild members are very similar). In short, it seems to me that Seth has strengthened our position.
It’s true, as you’ve insisted, that you have every legal and organizational right to continue to work for a struck company. Fine. Now could you please explain to us how Seth is “weakening” the WGA’s position by refusing to work for a struck company?
Thanks in advance,
Patrick Meighan Culver City, CA
I’ve been kinda impressed with the site, Craig; I just found it recently, because I’m not terribly keen on reading about screenwriting. But it’s been interesting to hear your thoughts about the strike, and even when I don’t agree with you (and that’s most of the time), I think your arguments are fairly well reasoned out.
But the “two weeks and then I’ll strike” is half-assed and lame. Your perogative, my opinion, whatever. But then signing that ad knowing your pencil isn’t down? That’s just bad news, man. And then admitting it here in a big rationalization? Less than half-assed (easily, a quarter-assed) and extremely lame.
I don’t mean to bag on your work, ‘cause I don’t know if you’ve written some amazing unproduced stuff or if the movies you have written were put through the wringer, but a while ago, I finally checked your imdb to see the movies you’ve made. And I was surprised. Just to see that this seemingly thoughtful guy with a point of view had only done extremely broad comedies and mostly parody movies. Not because they’re bad or anything, but that they didn’t seem as, well, thought-provoking as the stuff here.
I’m sure you may have had fun making them, but I doubt they were the movies you were dying to make. That’s all good. They just seem kind of mercenary.
I don’t know you. Hell, I don’t even know those movies very well.
But your deal with the “pencils down” ad… I mean it all kind of tracks. You do what’s right for you and you only. What you’re putting out, how you play the game.
And I’m sure you don’t even get what anybody’s problem could be with that.
Craig,
“Actors and directors who are also WGA members have been ordered by their own unions to report to work…so it’s more than just that they can, but, in fact, they should.”
Bzzzt!
Moral judgement. Questionable source.
They’re contractually required to, that’s for sure. But it’s not your place to declare what people of conscience should or should not do, ESPECIALLY when they’re out on the front lines, and you’re hanging back in (a) to (h) land.
Shawn Ryan SHOULD be showing up to oversee production of the final episode of The Shield next week. He won’t be. Because he feels that the right thing outweighs your SHOULD. And as much as this might drive you nuts, he’s a hero to his guild, for good reason. You’re not. With equal good reason. It would definitely behoove you at a time like this to avoid shitting on men and women who are putting their careers on the line over this strike.
“If that’s not a popular opinion, so be it. I stand by it.”
IF? Craig, if you spend ten minutes out there on the line, you’ll find that opinion isn’t even on the map. And you’re not a bold, independent thinking stud for stating it, no matter how strenuously you pose.
Craig,
And some would say by complying with legal contracts that support and empower corrupt employers is wrong.
It’s a moral gray area. I don’t think you should be criticized for your choice and I sure as hell don’t think you should be criticizing others for theirs.
Your choice, and I’m not judging you, leads to a longer strike action. A longer strike action leads me to sacrificing my career for you (and I’m willing to that). If someone chooses to sacrifice his or her career for me, I have to respect that and so should you.
This was brought up earlier, but I just want to get a clarification. Is there anything wrong (i.e. illegal, unethical, anti-WGA, scabby) with a non-WGA writer working with a non-signatory company without a studio deal during the strike?
Mark Haskell Smith:
“Am I the only one who finds a disconnect between someone who hides behind “Anonymous” and yet criticizes others for not having courage to take a stand?”
You are most definitely not.
The anonymi are getting tiring.
SML: “Showrunners and others are facing legal action for breaking their contracts. That’s the greatest sacrifice anyone of us could make. They’re putting their money where there mouth is… they’re saying, like Steve Carell, the WGA’s future is worth it. They are risking their million dollar salaries for the masses.”
More than that, some showrunners are being sued for the cost of the production. I don’t care how rich you are, that’s a load of cash.
Hey badcog - good to see you posting under your real name, although I do find it amusing that you berate people for using aliases.
Man, I’ve got to go pull up all my old favorite quotes from you…. You know the ones….
Kay,
Instead of anonymi, I prefer the plural pig fuckers. Yes, it’s insulting to pigs, but luckily they don’t post here… unlike those who fuck pigs… and I don’t eat pork, so I can say such things.
Craig,
Since you think people should show up to work, how do you feel about the showrunners? Not a loaded question, unless you answer unfavorably.
Heh.
“And some would say by complying with legal contracts that support and empower corrupt employers is wrong.”
Kind of wonder why we’re working so hard to get a contract with them then.
This thing has to go to June and SAG has to join in striking.
Thats the only way the WGA gets a better deal than what they might have gotten had they extended things past the strike deadline.
No reason for the studio heads to give up anything before then.
My info could be wrong, but I don’t believe Seth McFarlane has a Personal Service Agreement with Fox. He and his lawyers have been haggling with Rupert’s place about a new deal for some time, and so far as I know, no new contract’s been signed.
Sooo. Fox can’t sue him for breach of contract, since there ain’t no contract.
Kay,
“I don’t care how rich you are, that’s a load of cash.”
Damn. Didn’t realize that. Makes Craig’s criticism even more off point.
SML @84,
I think you’re mis-reading Craig’s criticism.
I think we weaken our position by urging our members to violate legal contracts.
I suspect he’s saying that, while having the showrunners violate contracts applies extra pressure against the AMPTP in the short run of this strike, it will also have the unintended consequence of making it harder for writers to become producer-writer hyphenates in the long run. And, unfortunately, it seems that the most effective ways for writers to empower themselves is to add a -producer or -director to their title.
I imagine the super-successful writers will always be able to leverage their talent into some other job and the additional influence. But there’s a lot of talented writers who are still on their way up, or maybe just not going to make that superstar list, and they could find it harder to hyphenate, or find themselves being told that they’ll have to give up WGA membership to become a showrunner after this since the studios will be gunshy.
Patrick wrote:
I’m more than happy to explain my position on this to you, but I’d prefer if you email me at admin@artfulwriter.com. My reasons go to negotiations strategy, and as much as I’m accused of willfully undermining the WGA, that’s not at all what I want to do.
Talking further about these reasons publicly could do that.
So email me, and I’ll give you my phone number, and I’ll explain it over the phone. Or I’ll email it back to you. Whichever you prefer.
Utterly Pointless wrote:
Yes, that would be half-assed and lame if that’s what I was doing. But it’s not. I am on strike right now. I am doing no writing as defined by our contract, nor am I taking meetings, nor am I accepting any writing work of any kind.
Well, this site reflects one side of me. My movies reflect another. You may view them as crap or mercenary, but that’s not what they are for me. I’m a huge fan of ZAZ parodies, and it’s been an honor to work with David Zucker and Jim Abrahams and Pat Proft.
I love these kinds of movies, and I love making them.
But, you know, different strokes and all that.
Some of you anonomous posters should go talk to BOD members and people on the Neg Com. You guys should find out whether they think Craig is a secret AMPTP spy.
Big difference between being a shill and an asshole.
Also, I wonder of some of you people who are idolizing these showrunners actually know what they’re really doing and thinking. Unfortunaly, the way life works, when you worship people you don’t know, you set yourself up to be let down.
Anyway, kudos to he “not a word” feature writers. Nice to see movie folks step up.
Olson wrote:
So I shouldn’t say shouldn’t?
But you can say it?
Are you making a philosophical argument in general, or just declaring that I’ve lost the right to formulate and publish opinions? You’ve lost me on this one.
How cute is Patrick Meighan’s idealized puppy love for Seth MacFarlane? Really. Love it. Love to be that young again. Perez Hilton take note.
How cute is Patrick Meighan’s idealized puppy love for Seth MacFarlane? Really. Love it. Makes me wanna be that young again. Perez Hilton take note.
I think the showrunners should refuse to submit literary material to the companies. I think the showrunners should not abandon their valid contractual duties as producers.
This isn’t, by the way, because I think contracts are holy and ought to be worshipped at the expense of morals or ideals (although I personally think if you give your word to do something, you ought to do it).
It’s because I think there are negative ramifications for our ongoing attempt to secure a good deal for the membership. And as I’ve said before, the why of it all isn’t something I’m willing to talk about publicly.
Olson:
“And you’re not a bold, independent thinking stud for stating it”
Says who?
Josh Olson,
while you appear to lecture Craig on morality of any description, would you like to clarify if you wrote the following?
http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/06/01/
“This is, of course, utter horsest. Saying that the pro-Israel lobby is rich and powerful is a simple statement of fact. It’s more than a little annoying that one cannot speak out against them without being branded an anti-Semite. Sort of like the big whoop made in Hollywood when Brando had the audacity to say that Hollywood is run by Jews. It’s f__g ridiculous.”
Adding to Craig’s assesment…
“…and like all battered women I will stay away until he shows me the slightest bit of love and will cave because I think it will be good for my children to have a man in their life…”
SML,
I just wanted to give you some props for that one.
Oh, and Craig,
Would you be willing to give Josh your phone number, as well, or does he have more of a “No closer than 300 yards” kind of relationship with you?
And did you write this to a Jewish commenter on the same blog?
“Perhaps, but if being overly simplistic and not very astute were crimes, you’d have been gassed long, long ago.”
(to get to these quotes attributed to Josh you must search for “badcog” on the main page. Josh apparently put a video on YouTube using the handle “badcog”).
I think you need to explain yourself, Josh, because this is anti-semitic stuff. Nobody should make a joke like that to a Jewish person.
Kay Reindl:
Which showrunners are being sued? Cause in the absence of specifity, just sounds like the b.s. fiction it is. Of course, much of what you’ve read on here sounds like fiction. And God help the studio that actually lets you near a budget (cause I mean wow is your info off base).
Correction to Post #97, “much of what you’ve WRITTEN on here”.
Also by the way, props where props are due, you are terribly inventive, hope you’ll write for years to come.
Correction to Post #97, “much of what you’ve WRITTEN on here”.
Also by the way, props where props are due, you are terribly inventive, hope you’ll write for years to come.
Correction to #97: “Much of what you’ve WRITTEN on here…”
Terribly inventive though, props where props are due, hope you’ll be writing for a long time to come.
Oh, I gave Josh my office number many months ago.
My office number has changed since then, so if he’s still interested, he can always email me, I’ll give him the new number, etc.
On the other hand, it wasn’t to make peace or anything. Instead, I believe I offered it to him so that I could tell him to go fuck himself.
He declined.
Craig: “I think the showrunners should refuse to submit literary material to the companies. I think the showrunners should not abandon their valid contractual duties as producers.
This isn’t, by the way, because I think contracts are holy and ought to be worshipped at the expense of morals or ideals (although I personally think if you give your word to do something, you ought to do it).
It’s because I think there are negative ramifications for our ongoing attempt to secure a good deal for the membership. And as I’ve said before, the why of it all isn’t something I’m willing to talk about publicly.”
And if you were the president of the Guild, you could do things your way. But you’re not. Your ideas are a bit too conservative for my taste. I mean, how would you pressure the AMPTP, then?
You haven’t worked in TV, so you don’t know how closely tied a showrunner’s job is to writing. A TV show moves a lot quicker than a movie and because of this, scripts are much more fluid. It’s nice to be an absolutist and say that the showrunners can and should fulfill their producer duties by not writing, but the reality is quite different.
This is particularly true if the showrunner is also the creator of the show. A director and a crew defer to the showrunner. It’s not like in film, where you can just kick the writer to the curb if you want to. And as someone who makes my primary living in TV, I have enormous respect for what they’re doing. I’ve spent lots of time in casting, in editing, in production and in post and in all my time doing those things, I’ve been both a writer and a producer. It’s not as easy to separate the two jobs as you seem to think it is.
It’s unfortunate that you don’t support their position. Our goal is to put as much pressure as we can on the AMPTP. Having all the showrunners there to finish their shows isn’t going to do that. We’re withholding our services. I realize that you don’t think this is important, or that it’s effective. But I’ve already seen its effectiveness because I’ve been talking to people on shows. These studios are desperate. Even though they went on about how many scripts they were stockpiling, it’s absolutely impossible to stockpile in TV. The schedule doesn’t permit it. I personally don’t want the AMPTP and its allies to to have even a few weeks of comfort. They need to know what it’s like to be without us, and that includes the showrunners.
To me, this is another instance of how you’re out of touch because you’re not in the thick of this. Having the showrunners out is a huge sign of solidarity and I completely believe in this tactic. But then I’m not an inner muckety-muck in the Guild…
As for the idea (posited above, I believe) that it’ll be harder for people to move up the ladder, that’s not going to be the case because of how contracts are structured. The more you work, the more levels you pass. And you eventually arrive at executive producer. Actually, you’re a hyphenate when you hit co-producer, and it’s not like shows are gonna be staffed by story editors.
Dear cowardly anonymous AMPTP shill calling him/herself “Hmmm”,
Yup, I admit it, I have a great deal of admiration for anyone willing to make sacrifices that benefit those less fortunate and/or powerful than themselves. I know, you may not be able to comprehend such a motivation, but it does exist within some folks from time to time, and Seth MacFarlane, at this point in time, appears to be acting with just such a motive. So, yeah, I admire the act, just as I admire the actor.
I can assure you, though, that there’s nothing “idealized” about the admiration, as the guy happens to be my employer, and, like most any employer, he does something most every single day that pisses me off. He’s a great guy, and he can be an asshole sometimes too. Please know that I know that.
As to the schoolyard “puppy love” taunt, I suppose this is where I’m expected to get all embarrassed and go “nuh uh!” and butch up and what-not for your benefit, and I totally was about to do that, too, but then I remembered that I’m not in 7th Grade.
Nice try, though.
Hey, “Hmmm,” what’s your real name and occupation? Here’s mine:
Patrick Meighan, writer
Who’s your employer? Mine’s 20th Century Fox. Or at least they used to be.
Yours?
Chickenshit #97: “Which showrunners are being sued? Cause in the absence of specifity, just sounds like the b.s. fiction it is. Of course, much of what you’ve read on here sounds like fiction. And God help the studio that actually lets you near a budget (cause I mean wow is your info off base).”
Showrunners are being sued for the entire budget of the production they have left. Sorry if you don’t believe that. I’m not going to give you any names because I’m not supposed to. As for the second part, huh? Where am I off base? I’d love to know.
And I’ve already been let near a budget, so too bad there. Seriously, asshat, show yourself. If you’re a worthy adversary here, tell me why I should give a shit.
Patrick, you forgot to include where you live, as well. If you could do that in the future, that would be super. Thanks.
If someone breaches his contract as a producer, then he’s violating his individual contract with an employer.
If someone breaches his contract as a director or an actor, then he’s violating his individual contract with an employer, a union contract with an employer, and his individual contract with the union, in the form of the union’s constitution and by-laws.
I think that someone who accepts a union job should honor both the union’s contract and the union’s constitution and by-laws.
Craig, as way to raise money for the WGA strike fund, would you be willing to sit on a stool and let us beat you senseless with nerf bat? I’m thinking 10 bucks for a minute would be fair.
After three days of reading what a sell out Craig is I find that it’s leaving me empty and wanting a more tangible expression of pain.
Just a thought…
Steven PP,
I don’t think I mis-read Craig. And I don’t think his criticism is coming from a nasty place. I honestly believe Craig has the little guy’s best interests at heart.
But it doesn’t give him the right to criticize others who also have the little guy’s best interest at heart. His criticism takes the focus off the little guy and puts it on the big guy.
Both philosophies have their positives and both have their negatives. But both will result in the little guy taking the heat for the big guy’s choices.
I believe Craig’s strategy empowers the AMPTP to hold out. But it doesn’t stop the little guy’s blood from spilling.
I believe the Showrunners (and others) strategy empowers all writers (at least for the short fight).
Blood will be spilled no matter what. The showrunners have said fuck the pretense, let’s cut our wrists and see what happens. And, yes, the little guy will suffer. But with this choice at least his or her death will be quick.
“I think that someone who accepts a union job should honor both the union’s contract and the union’s constitution and by-laws.”
And I think a member of the WGA should do all that he/she can, during a WGA strike, to give the WGA’s negotiating committee the maximum possible leverage with which to bargain so that the Alliance will be incentivized to reach a settlement quickly, and at terms favorable to the WGA.
So, I guess we simply have a difference of opinion.
Patrick Meighan Culver City, CA (sorry, Tim W., to have forgotten that last part earlier… I know that must’ve been very disorienting to you)
Yes. The showrunners are heroes. To the extent that anyone in this situation can be.
They make me proud to be in this union.
Louise B,
That’s slanderous horse shit you’re spreading and doesn’t belong on this site.
Craig: DELETE BUTTON ON HER/HIM.
SML @108
Yah, I’m at least wrong about Craig’s reasoning.
The WGA doesn’t have any leverage…the threat of strike was the only meager leverage they had. Now they can only be hopeful for the leverage a possible SAG + WGA combp strike may have. But that means they are shit out of luck till June. The studios will be more than happy to clean out tons of deals, cut payroll and end it all by getting the WGA to sign a deal that isn’t any better than what they would have gotten without striking.
Craig,
“…the why of it all isn’t something I’m willing to talk about publicly.”
Then why say anything at all?
Your one sided statements don’t inform, present theory, or allow debate. They’re superfluous and yet highly inflammatory.
Exposit your theories to the masses and we’ll follow. Hide them and the AMPTP will kill you with PR.
It’s interesting that you strike against the studios. Of course they have screwed you over in the 8 cents that you request off a DVD. While I felt sympathy for your plight it occured to me that with the picketting and bullying as far as productions go - I mean it’s a double standard the showrunners wrote the last episode before the strike so they could get their money. They should shut up and allow the crew to get their money before their production is called to a halt. Figure it out people, you’re just a mob with no power anymore. Your union works for you - you don’t work for your union. The WGA Guild leadership failed you and yeah, of course they felt betrayed last Sunday with that deal - hey it’s Hollywood when have you ever heard of a good deal? Now you - the writers are betraying the people who worked for you on either a show more a show than a movie. I find it funny that you criticize Craig. He’s doing his job honoring his contract and not crossing the lines, then again right now you all are biting the hand that feeds you so you might as well bite Craig to since he gives you an outlet. You guys have no loyalty - how do you expect the same from the studios? Go look in the mirror writers, because it’s going to get ugly.
Patrick from Culver City… 109
Amen Brother. PTTP. That’s short for Power to the People.
P. That’s short for Peace. O. That’s short for Out.
Sleep, sleep time.
Can anyone advocating that hyphenates violate the terms of a valid contracts’ “no-strike” clause see where that calls into question the validity of any contract?
What’s the point of negotiating agreements if you have no intention of living up to them? Everyone living in this country relies on contracts for their daily lives; your lease, mortgage, credit, etc… all rely on people living up their agreements. If a bank suddenly yanked your mortgage and foreclosed on your home your next call would be to an attorney. Yet when it suites your cause your willing to toss it aside as some minor inconvenience.
Seems a tad hypocritical to me.
And yes, quite obviously I’m a studio shill because who else but a stooge for the man would dare to question the righteousness of the WGA tactics?
The WGA lost its soul when you let Jesse Jackson speak for you - you know it, because you can’t take that guy seriously anywhere else yet you let him speak at your rally? Instead of excercisng on Pico, why don’t you get you good old President into the negotiations again, before it’s too late. Look the studios are a small fraction of huge corporations. Right now television ratings are down and pretty much sequels are making the big buck in Hollywood. End this strike and negotiate before you relive 1988 all over again. Wanna wait for SAG? Then wait until June. They say they’re your brother or sister now - if they get a better deal think they’ll be a relative. Hell, you already know the DGA is working out something. Make your union work for you - right now your union is making you work for them. You pay their dues not the other way around. No, I’m not a corporate guy or anything like that, I just watched assistants to writers lose their job - people with families now have to figure out the next step while most of you working writers will get your jobs back when it’s all said and done. I said most, the rank and file bunch will probably get screwed - figure it out before it gets worse.
Because I was asked?
I’m kinda damned if I do, damned if I don’t, huh?
Jim,
GFYMUTA.
That’s short for… it’s already ugly my man. It’s been ugly for a long time. This bend over and take it, omega puppy, poop rolls downhill bullshit is what got us here in the first place.
Not only is the WGA showing John Wayne level grit, but they’re showing Jimmy Carter level reasonableness (Nobel Peace Prize in the house).
And that’s all we can ask for.
The AMPTP may not even flinch and three months from now people like me will be working at Starbucks dreaming of Brad Pitt’s abs (did I say I love Stephen Colbert?). And I’ll probably become an anti-corporate warrior, sercretly working my way up the chain of command (I’ve done it before and I’ll do it again), until I reach Howard Schulz’ office, sit my ass down on his lap and say, “Fuck Starbucks and Fuck you.” And who will I have to thank for my sack stretching three sizes: Katherine Heigl… (if you’re reading this: what’s up, baby? If my girlfriend is reading this: it’s not what it looks like).
So, yeah, it’s time to put up or shut up.
SML,
I haven’t seen you on the picket line at all. So STFU until you join the line, you are no better than any of the other anon internet warriors.
Craig,
You are royally damned and I do not envy you. There’s a lot of people who support what you do here, I just hope you don’t let this shit get to you.
But you seem to handling it okay.
Good night.
Hey SML…wake up, wake up…you’re writing in your sleep! :)
I know it has been ugly for a long time. I recall last year reading about the web episodes for Battlestar Gallactica and how Universal was screwing over the writers. I knew then it would get ugly. I was hoping a strike would not happen that negotiations could continue and something would work out. The enemy you are dealing with is a different type then the ones you dealt with in 88. These people don’t flinch about laying people off - you are nothing more than an accounting problem. I respect what writers are able to do - the good ones - there are posers i.e. writers who sit or lounge around collecting checks when maybe 2 writers in a staff of 12 staff writers work. You see it in production you see it on crews, but guess what those lazy people get caught and are fired. Don’t let this get to the point where you are working at Starbucks again. You value your intellect and intellegence - outsmart your oponent. Don’t become an angry mob. Right now your all emotional - everyone is. Below the line has everything to lose - while you might have something to gain. Of course you guys are thought of as selfish by some - prove those people wrong. Again, your union works for you - not the other way around - get them back to the negotiating table before its too late. Beat them at their own game.
“I’m a huge fan of ZAZ parodies, and it’s b